Kevin Costner sat down with Jenny Hutt on her SiriusXM “Just Jenny” Show to talk about his new movie “McFarlandUSA”. During their conversation, Kevin revealed a shocker about Madonna, what he thinks about Bruce Jenner, the emotional sixtieth birthday from his daughter, and how he feels about reality stars and his own success!
Jenny: You were a part of Pop culture history, of course the whole Madonna debacle from years ago.
Jenny: The big Madonna-Kevin Costner… after you called her show neat, which by the way, I would have done. I use the word “neat” so, I took no issue with that. After it’s been 20 years later, have you fully been made up?
Kevin: Well she did something extraordinary. My kids 15 years later, I didn’t know it was coming, but 15 years later my kids wanted to go see a Madonna show and I didn’t want them to be affected by this one little thing that happened, I was embarrassed by it a little bit, but I’ve got over it, too. But, they wanted to go see Madonna then, and now I can get tickets, I can do whatever I want.
Jenny: Of course.
Kevin: But I bought the tickets myself and took my daughters to see Madonna and we didn’t get any special seat, we’re off to the right, and lights were on and the show started and I could just see how happy my daughters were, watching her show and she was just blazing, she was going really strong and then the lights dipped the second time as the show was mid-way through and also she goes: “I want to apologize to somebody. “And the audience got really quiet and she said: “I want to apologize to Kevin Costner.” And I had no idea that she even knew that I was in the audience. And it was a very big thing and my daughters turned and looked at me like: “What was that?” And I was so glad, number one – to hear that. Didn’t think it was coming, I got even embarrassed a little bit. The lights didn’t shine on me because no one knew the lights were on and my daughters looked at me and I just thought it was a really nice thing for her to do. I never actually called her to say: “Hey, thanks”, because we have just this weird communication that goes back and forth.
Jenny: Just happens.
Kevin: We are who we are, but she did that.
Jenny: Have you run into her recently?
Kevin: No I haven’t run into her, but I know who I am, she knows who she is. And I thought what she did was very big and she didn’t have to do it and my daughters never forgot it.
On Bruce Jenner:
Jenny: You are one of the macho actors in whole Hollywood, do you have any thought on the whole Bruce Jenner thing that is going on?
Kevin: Well, this guy achieved something that a lot of people have talked about , competing at an Olympics. And was winning. I mean you want to compete at an Olympics and your parents would tell you, you’re the fastest little runner, well, guess what, you’re not. But, guess what, Bruce was in his own way and achieved so much and what happens is, in America when you have success like that, you are crushed into the light and he was too and he was very successful at it. And since he was orchestrating his life and his life turned out maybe as not as conventional as others’ people lives and reality is that it’s playing every day in the press so, it must be really hard for him. So, for me to talk about it, I see what everybody sees, You know, there is a really good person in there and that’s what’s important and his life is wide opened and people are going to lay it out however they want to lay it out and I just hope that he finds peace in his life and maybe he should go to a place that make him feel good and avoid the places that make him feel bad.
On His Sixtieth Birthday:
Jenny: How did you celebrate your 60th birthday?
Kevin: I didn’t want to. It wasn’t the age, age didn’t wake me up, and I’ve had enough attention for a lifetime.
Kevin: Yeah and the surprise party or the party people have to drop what they’re doing, get on the plane, with certain necessities and comments, but last thing I want to people to do, but my wife would have none of it and my eldest daughter Annie would have none of it. And if you see both of them you’ll go: “Well, I’m not going to fight that.” And my daughter did a very sweet thing, she asked 60 of my friends in honor of the number, to write personal letters and she had put them on a treasure box and she wrapped that up.
Jenny: Oh, that’s beautiful.
Kevin: And she said: “Here is your treasure.” And so I have been, over time reading one or two of those in a really, kind of extended way and I haven’t yet started to write my “thank yous “ but I have been able in privacy to just drift off, with friends that I have known over time who would feel like I’ve made a difference in their own but they don’t realize that they’ve made the difference in mine.
On Reality stars like the Kardashians and Kevin’s own success:
Jenny: You’ve worked so hard to accomplish what you have accomplished, so your fame is going to come as a kind of a by product of hard work and intense work. What do you think about today’s fame? All the famous people, like the Kardashians, are famous because, like, it’s a Tuesday and I’m wearing something revealing.
Kevin: Yeah, feels like famous is cultural achievement now. It’s not you have to actually do anything. You can self-invent, I don’t think much of it. I don’t think bad of it, I just don’t think much of it. To me it’s not like I have to put it down I’m not above it, I’m certainly not below it. It is what it is, it’s a time in the sense what we’re living at, but you have to be relevant to yourself. And I’m not quite the thing anymore, I’m not you know necessarily in Vogue.
Jenny: Well, I would have to disagree with you respectively. I have got to say you are Kevin Costner, You are McFarland, USA now, I think you always will be
Kevin: Well, I appreciate that.
Jenny: It’s true.
Kevin: If I have to look honestly, I’m not a “GO TO” guy, I’m not in this giant movies, I’m not that and my ego can kind of want that a little bit, right? I like that , but I know it doesn’t define me so I have to actually; whatever I’m trying to teach my kids right, I have to teach myself sometimes, you have to go: “Wait a second. What are you about? What are you trying to?” I don’t have to alter myself to try to stay popular, to try to stay current. What I really have to do is trying to understand if I’m interested genuinely in the things that I’m doing.
Jenny: We all still look at you as the movies star of movie stars, the great Kevin Costner, and the body work speaks for itself but you are a terrific guy. So, I love that. This has been such a pleasure getting to talk to you today and everybody have to go se McFarland, USA movie, because it’s really good.
Kevin: Thanks. And “Black or White.”